Is it possible to buy a good quality standalone Skype handset which
will work off Wi-Fi without the need for a mobile network. The
problem I have is that Skype on a "3" mobile will not allow Skype-Out.

--
Alasdair.

"Alasdair" wrote in message
...
Is it possible to buy a good quality standalone Skype handset which
will work off Wi-Fi without the need for a mobile network. The
problem I have is that Skype on a "3" mobile will not allow Skype-Out.
Alasdair.


Skype compatible phones are listed at:
http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/mobile/

Or you could set up a skype to sip gateway on a 3 phone
which would get around the skype out problem, and get you cheap calls

check out Graham's site
http://www.skypegateway.webs.com/

list of sips and call costs
http://backsla.sh/betamax

Steve Terry
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On Jan 24, 12:52*am, "Steve Terry" wrote:
"Alasdair" wrote in message

... Is it possible to buy a good quality standalone Skype handset which
will work off Wi-Fi *without the need for a mobile network. * The
problem I have is that Skype on a "3" mobile will not allow Skype-Out.
Alasdair.

Skype compatible phones are listed at:http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/mobile/

Or you could set up a skype to sip gateway on a 3 phone
which would get around the skype out problem, and get you cheap calls

check out Graham's sitehttp://www.skypegateway.webs.com/

list of sips and call costshttp://backsla.sh/betamax

Steve Terry
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On the S2 Skype Out works for international calls - but you need Skype
credit. Skype Out calls to landlines are next to nothing. Calls to
mobiles are expensive and the quality not worth paying for.

CJB

"CJB" wrote in message
...
On Jan 24, 12:52 am, "Steve Terry" wrote:
"Alasdair" wrote in message

... Is it possible to buy
a good quality standalone Skype handset which
will work off Wi-Fi without the need for a mobile network. The
problem I have is that Skype on a "3" mobile will not allow Skype-Out.
Alasdair.

Skype compatible phones are listed
at:http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/mobile/

Or you could set up a skype to sip gateway on a 3 phone
which would get around the skype out problem, and get you cheap calls

check out Graham's site
http://www.skypegateway.webs.com/

list of sips and call costs
http://backsla.sh/betamax

Steve Terry

On the S2 Skype Out works for international calls - but you need Skype
credit. Skype Out calls to landlines are next to nothing. Calls to
mobiles are expensive and the quality not worth paying for.
CJB


Did you actually read
http://www.skypegateway.webs.com/

Steve Terry
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On 2010-01-24, Steve Terry wrote:

"Alasdair" wrote in message
...
Is it possible to buy a good quality standalone Skype handset which
will work off Wi-Fi without the need for a mobile network. The
problem I have is that Skype on a "3" mobile will not allow Skype-Out.
Alasdair.


Skype compatible phones are listed at:
http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/mobile/

Or you could set up a skype to sip gateway on a 3 phone
which would get around the skype out problem, and get you cheap calls

check out Graham's site
http://www.skypegateway.webs.com/

Rebtel, here

http://www.rebtel.com

is also a possibility. They provide the Skype-to-SIP gateway
for you, though I'm not sure it will actually work on a 3 phone.
You need to "dial" from the browser, which is supposed to start
up a Skype call to the Skype name they've picked for the call,
so it may depend on the browser-Skype app interaction working.
Rebtel's call rates are also generally better than Skype Out.

On the topic of Skype being a "proprietary" protocol, I think
that is actually its best feature for travel. I've stayed in
lots of hotels (not to mention whole countries, e.g. Myanmar,
and Costa Rica at one point) which block SIP but which seem to
be unable to do the same for Skype. If you can avoid the gotcha
rates on the Skype Out price list it is otherwise pretty good.

Dennis Ferguson

On Jan 25, 4:57*am, Dennis Ferguson wrote:
On 2010-01-24, Steve Terry wrote:







"Alasdair" wrote in message
.. .
Is it possible to buy a good quality standalone Skype handset which
will work off Wi-Fi *without the need for a mobile network. * The
problem I have is that Skype on a "3" mobile will not allow Skype-Out.
Alasdair.

Skype compatible phones are listed at:
http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/mobile/

Or you could set up a skype to sip gateway on a 3 phone
which would get around the skype out problem, and get you cheap calls

check out Graham's site
http://www.skypegateway.webs.com/

Rebtel, here

* *http://www.rebtel.com

is also a possibility. *They provide the Skype-to-SIP gateway
for you, though I'm not sure it will actually work on a 3 phone.
You need to "dial" from the browser, which is supposed to start
up a Skype call to the Skype name they've picked for the call,
so it may depend on the browser-Skype app interaction working.
Rebtel's call rates are also generally better than Skype Out.

On the topic of Skype being a "proprietary" protocol, I think
that is actually its best feature for travel. *I've stayed in
lots of hotels (not to mention whole countries, e.g. Myanmar,
and Costa Rica at one point) which block SIP but which seem to
be unable to do the same for Skype. *If you can avoid the gotcha
rates on the Skype Out price list it is otherwise pretty good.

Dennis Ferguson- Hide quoted text -

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Rebtel is expensive when you have a S2 and a PAYG Three account.

With Three (and an S2 etc.) you can make Skype Out calls for 'free' to
international nos. - landlines and mobiles. Well the Three connection
to Skype is free. Then with Skype credit the Skype Out charge is
about 2p a min. for a landline no., and about 14p a min. for a mobile
(and the quality varies).

But to use Rebtel you have to set up a local no. which on Three's
tariff (with an S2 etc.) is 20p a minute for the connection to start
off with. Then you are charged for whatever Rebtel charges for a
landline or mobile connection.

For a local call you can't use Skype on the S2. Three charges 20p a
min. flat rate to a local call. So why use Rebtel when you have to pay
20p a min. to call the Rebtel local no., and then pay for whatever
Rebtel charges to connect to the required local no.

It is Three's 20p a minute which is the kiler in all of this. And
other mobile telco. charges are higher.

CJB.

On Jan 24, 7:57*pm, "Steve Terry" wrote:
"CJB" wrote in message

...
On Jan 24, 12:52 am, "Steve Terry" wrote:



"Alasdair" wrote in message

.. . Is it possible to buy
a good quality standalone Skype handset which
will work off Wi-Fi without the need for a mobile network. The
problem I have is that Skype on a "3" mobile will not allow Skype-Out.

On 2010-01-25, CJB wrote:
On Jan 25, 4:57Â*am, Dennis Ferguson wrote:
Rebtel, here

Â* Â*http://www.rebtel.com

is also a possibility. Â*They provide the Skype-to-SIP gateway
for you, though I'm not sure it will actually work on a 3 phone.
You need to "dial" from the browser, which is supposed to start
up a Skype call to the Skype name they've picked for the call,
so it may depend on the browser-Skype app interaction working.
Rebtel's call rates are also generally better than Skype Out.
[...]
But to use Rebtel you have to set up a local no. which on Three's
tariff (with an S2 etc.) is 20p a minute for the connection to start
off with. Then you are charged for whatever Rebtel charges for a
landline or mobile connection.

It would be easier if you'd taken note of what I wrote, though
maybe you can look he

http://blog.rebtel.com/2009/12/03/re...omputer-calls/

You don't have to call through a local number to use Rebtel,
you can also call from your Skype client with Rebtel doing
the gatewaying to their service. As the Skype client in
the latter case thinks it is doing a Skype-to-Skype call the
call doesn't cost anything and should connect you no matter
where you are ultimately trying to call. Rebtel's rates are
also somewhat more reasonable than Skype Out.

For a local call you can't use Skype on the S2. Three charges 20p a
min. flat rate to a local call. So why use Rebtel when you have to pay
20p a min. to call the Rebtel local no., and then pay for whatever
Rebtel charges to connect to the required local no.

You don't have to call a Rebtel dial-through number. The way it
works, however, you do need to initiate the call from a browser
logged into Rebtel's web site so you'll need to be paying for
data service for the S2.

Dennis Ferguson

"CJB" wrote in message ...
On Jan 24, 7:57 pm, "Steve Terry" wrote:
"CJB" wrote in message

...
On Jan 24, 12:52 am, "Steve Terry" wrote:



"Alasdair" wrote in message

.. . Is it possible to buy
a good quality standalone Skype handset which
will work off Wi-Fi without the need for a mobile network. The
problem I have is that Skype on a "3" mobile will not allow Skype-Out.
Alasdair.

Skype compatible phones are listed
at:http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/mobile/

Or you could set up a skype to sip gateway on a 3 phone
which would get around the skype out problem, and get you cheap calls

check out Graham's site
http://www.skypegateway.webs.com/

list of sips and call costs
http://backsla.sh/betamax

Steve Terry

On the S2 Skype Out works for international calls - but you need Skype
credit. Skype Out calls to landlines are next to nothing. Calls to
mobiles are expensive and the quality not worth paying for.
CJB

Did you actually readhttp://www.skypegateway.webs.com/

Steve Terry
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Reading the details is easy. Understanding what to do to set it all up
is not. Also you need a 24/7 broadband connection on a static PC to
act as a server. No good for those with a dongle or S2 mobile modem as
his/her only broadband link. CJB.


It's not difficult if you take it step by step.
Last night I made a few minor changes to the wording that might have caused
confusion at a cursory glance.

It is true that you need to run a PC 24/7 and you would have to factor the electricity
costs into the TCO.
Ideally, run it on a PC that needs to be on anyway.

It would be nice to have a free hosting somewhere for the gateway,
it may never happen because of the bandwith involved. The audio streams themselves must
go via the gateway because of the trans-protocol conversion.

You are totally wrong about the need for a static IP address in this project.
and even if it did, we could use dyndns.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

"Dennis Ferguson" wrote in message
...
On 2010-01-25, CJB wrote:
On Jan 25, 4:57 am, Dennis Ferguson wrote:
Rebtel, here

http://www.rebtel.com

is also a possibility. They provide the Skype-to-SIP gateway
for you, though I'm not sure it will actually work on a 3 phone.
You need to "dial" from the browser, which is supposed to start
up a Skype call to the Skype name they've picked for the call,
so it may depend on the browser-Skype app interaction working.
Rebtel's call rates are also generally better than Skype Out.
[...]
But to use Rebtel you have to set up a local no. which on Three's
tariff (with an S2 etc.) is 20p a minute for the connection to start
off with. Then you are charged for whatever Rebtel charges for a
landline or mobile connection.

It would be easier if you'd taken note of what I wrote, though
maybe you can look he

http://blog.rebtel.com/2009/12/03/re...omputer-calls/

You don't have to call through a local number to use Rebtel,
you can also call from your Skype client with Rebtel doing
the gatewaying to their service. As the Skype client in
the latter case thinks it is doing a Skype-to-Skype call the
call doesn't cost anything and should connect you no matter
where you are ultimately trying to call. Rebtel's rates are
also somewhat more reasonable than Skype Out.


But rebtel is still 11p per min to call UK mobiles, you'd be better
off with an ASDA or giffgaff sim for other than 3 to 3 calls

Steve Terry
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