without me signing up for anything and never hearing of them before
the crooks and scammers at bobmobile.co.uk have stolen money from me.

They sent me five text messages and charged me £2.50 a time and what
do they say when I told them I never signed up.

Tough luck!

They are a bunch of crooks registered in Germany and they steal money
from your phone credit and say that you must have signed up.

Liars and crooks and their web site looks like it has been set up by a
degenerate drunken arshole or a five year old kid.

In article
s.com, Davie the Scotsman writes
without me signing up for anything and never hearing of them before the
crooks and scammers at bobmobile.co.uk have stolen money from me.

They sent me five text messages and charged me £2.50 a time and what do
they say when I told them I never signed up.

Tough luck!

They are a bunch of crooks registered in Germany and they steal money
from your phone credit and say that you must have signed up.

Liars and crooks and their web site looks like it has been set up by a

I had a similar thing happen from a Swiss firm, I was luckier than you,
Virgin Mobile tracked them down for me and I sent them an e-mail, a bod
rang me and said it was a 'computer glitch' and they would refund me, he
asked for my bank details and was a bit bemused when I wouldn't give
them, I asked for a cheque instead which arrived and was cashed.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange

"Davie the Scotsman" wrote in message
...
without me signing up for anything and never hearing of them before
the crooks and scammers at bobmobile.co.uk have stolen money from me.

They sent me five text messages and charged me £2.50 a time and what
do they say when I told them I never signed up.


T Mobile and Voda have reverse SMS opt out,
they all should

Steve Terry
--
Get a free Three 3pay Sim with £2 bonus after £10 top up
http://freeagent.three.co.uk/stand/view/id/5276

On Mar 16, 9:13Â*pm, "Steve Terry" wrote:
"Davie the Scotsman" wrote in ...witho ut me signing up for anything and never hearing of them before
the crooks and scammers at bobmobile.co.uk have stolen money from me.

They sent me five text messages and charged me £2.50 a time and what
do they say when I told them I never signed up.

T Mobile and Voda have reverse SMS opt out,
they all should

Steve Terry
--

I suggest sending a strongly worded email to the ISP involved -
www.internetwire.de (see below) - stating that BobMobile is
perpetrating a criminal fraud - www.internetwire.de

This is BobMobile's Ts&Cs - take notice of the paragraph headed
"Access without Registration"

Access without Registration. COMPANY may provide you with access to
some Services without you registering as a user. In that case your
identification is based on other means of identification that COMPANY
deems appropriate. Identification is typically based on data
identifying your Subscription, such as your mobile phone number. You
agree that such information may be collected and disclosed to COMPANY
and used in accordance with Section 3.

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WELCOME TO GUERILLA MOBILE ("COMPANY")! BEFORE YOU USE OUR SERVICE,
YOU MUST READ THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS ("TERMS") CAREFULLY. BY USING
OUR SERVICE, YOU AGREE TO THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS; IF YOU DO NOT
AGREE; DO NOT USE THE SERVICE.

Description of Services

COMPANY provides downloadable mobile entertainment content, such as
ringtones, games, graphics, news and other information data through
its on-line (World Wide Web) and SMS (Short Message Service) services
to certain compatible mobile devices (the "Service"). The Service may
also include access to products and services of independent third
parties. After proper registration and payment, you will be permitted
to download certain Products through the Service to compatible mobile
phones and other compatible devices.

Registration and Access to the Service

Access to the Service. In order to use the Service you must be 16
years of age or have bill payer's permission. The contract is void
where prohibited. In order to use the Service, you must also have a
mobile communications subscription with a participating carrier or
otherwise have access to a mobile communications network for which
Company makes the Service available, and pay any service fees
associated with any such access. In addition, you must provide all
equipment and software necessary to connect to the Service, including,
but not limited to, a mobile handset or other mobile access device
that is in working order and suitable for use in connection with the
Service. You are responsible for ensuring that your equipment and/or
software do not disturb or interfere with Company's operations. Any
equipment or software causing interference shall be immediately
disconnected from the Service and Company shall have the right to
immediately terminate this Agreement. If any upgrade in or to the
Service requires changes in your equipment or software, you must
effect these changes at your own expense. Unless explicitly stated
otherwise, any new or additional features that augment or enhance the
current Service, including the release of new products and services,
shall be subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement.

Contracts for our Service. COMPANY is offering its services as
individual downloads or as a bundle of credits for a defined number of
individual downloads on a renewable subscription basis. Unless
otherwise expressly indicated, no information presented in the Service
or in connection with any products and services shall be deemed as a
binding offer by COMPANY, but as an invitation for you to order. The
contract for the ongoing Subscription Service between you and COMPANY
shall begin when COMPANY, upon your request, has provided you with
access to the Service (such access may be based on a personal username
and password generated for that purpose or on other data that COMPANY
deems sufficient for your identification). Access to the Service can
be provided by delivering to you downloadable mobile entertainment
content of the content category you subscribed to (e.g. by delivering
a ringtone or an info news - SMS) or by enabling you to download the
product (e.g. by delivering a WAP-Push link or a PIN for download of
the downloadable mobile entertainment content on COMPANY website) or
by providing access to the mobile entertainment content (e.g. by
enabling MSISDN for this product). The subscription period is one week
or one month depending on the type of the subscription contract. The
Subscription contract and the subscription period will be renewed each
week or month as applicable and a new subscription fee shall become
due for the new subscription period. The subscription contract shall
remain in effect until terminated and/or canceled by you or COMPANY
according to Section 8 of these Terms. Contracts for the products and
services of COMPANY and independent third parties which are made
available through the Service shall begin when COMPANY or the third
party has accepted your order for the same or has provided you with
the product or service pursuant to your order. The contract will
remain in effect until terminated by you or Company according to
Section 8 of these Terms. The monthly subscription contracts include a
certain defined number of credits which entitle you to download,
receive and/or access that defined number of individual downloads of
mobile entertainment content for a monthly flat fee. After entering
into your subscription contract, every month COMPANY will transfer
download credits to your account. The type and number of credits you
are entitled to is dependent on the type of subscription you choose.
The provision of credits and the making available of the possibility
to download, receive and/or access mobile entertainment content is
offered for a flat fee. The monthly flat fee shall become due every
week/month your subscription contract is valid irrespective of whether
or not you actually download any content during any particular
subscription period; the consideration for the monthly flat fee shall
solely be the monthly provision of the right to download, receive and/
or access downloadable mobile entertainment content, in other words
the making available of the respective download-, WAP- and SMS service
credits. The number of credits for downloads shall be reduced by
actual downloaded mobile entertainment content, in other words the
download of mobile entertainment content is evaluated as redemption of
one or more credits and thereby reduces the total number of
downloadable mobile entertainment content you are entitled to
download, receive and/or access with your subscription contract during
that particular subscription period. Depending on the type of your
subscription contract, if you do not use/redeem all your credits
within the subscription period (1 week or 1 month), the unused credits
will either (a) be rolled over into the next subscription period and
remain in your account until used/redeemed or until expiration or
termination of your subscription contract or (b) will expire at the
end of the respective subscription period. If you download mobile
entertainment content in excess of the amount allowed by your selected
subscription contract, then you agree to pay the applicable COMPANY
retail rate for such additional downloads.
Credits can only be used to
download mobile entertainment content offered by COMPANY. If you
purchased your COMPANY product in a store or directly from COMPANY or
a third party, the contract shall be deemed concluded at the time of
the purchase of the product.

Responsibility for the Use of the Service. You are fully responsible
for all activities that occur under your password or account or
through your Subscription. That responsibility includes, but is not
limited to, the responsibility for any fees for the use of the Service
or any products and services made available through the Service. You
agree to notify COMPANY immediately in case you become aware of or
suspect unauthorized use of your password or account or Subscription
or any other breach of security, and to ensure that you log out of
your account at the end of each session. COMPANY cannot and will not
be liable for any loss or damage arising from your failure to comply
with this Section. You acknowledge and agree that you will not use the
Service for any commercial purposes.
Registration and Registration Data. Upon your request, COMPANY may
register you as a user and provide you with access to the Service by
allocating you a personal username and password. COMPANY may need to
change usernames allocated to certain of its Services and reserves the
right to do so (you will be informed if this is necessary). The same
procedure may apply to products and services made available through
the Service. You are solely responsible for maintaining the
confidentiality of any possible password and account. In exchange for
your use of the Service (in addition to the payment of applicable
fees) you agree to: (a) provide true, accurate and complete
information about yourself as prompted by the registration form
("Registration Data") and (b) maintain and promptly update the
Registration Data to keep it true, accurate, current and complete. If
COMPANY has reasonable grounds to suspect that the Registration Data
is untrue, inaccurate or incomplete, COMPANY has the right to suspend
or terminate your account and refuse any and all current or future use
of the Service (or any portion thereof). Prior to any such withdrawal
COMPANY shall temporarily withdraw the Service and notify you of the
grounds on which the Service has been withdrawn. If the position has
not been rectified within 14 working days of the notice such
withdrawal will be made permanent.

Access without Registration. COMPANY may provide you with access to
some Services without you registering as a user. In that case your
identification is based on other means of identification that COMPANY
deems appropriate. Identification is typically based on data
identifying your Subscription, such as your mobile phone number. You
agree that such information may be collected and disclosed to COMPANY
and used in accordance with Section 3.

Assignment. You may not assign or transfer in any other way the
contract or any of your contractual rights. COMPANY shall have the
right to assign its rights and obligations under this contract and any
receivables based on this contract to a third party upon written
notice to you, provided such assignment is made under terms not less
favorable to you than those in these TERMS. After a notice concerning
the transfer of receivables, payments shall be valid only when made to
the new service provider.

License to Download(s). You acknowledge and agree that the Download(s)
made available as part of the Service are owned by Company, its
affiliate and/or licensors, as applicable, and are protected by
intellectual property laws. Company hereby grants, and you hereby
accept, a limited, non-exclusive, non-transferable, revocable license
to download and use the Download(s) and the Service on a designated
compatible mobile device solely for your own personal non-commercial
use. You further acknowledge and agree that you may not reproduce,
modify, perform, transfer, distribute, sell, create derivative works
of or otherwise use or make available the Download(s) except as
expressly provided in this Agreement.

Interruptions or Discontinuation of Service. COMPANY may suspend the
Service for repair, maintenance, and/or upgrade work. In such event,
COMPANY shall aim at keeping the said interruption short and at
causing as little inconvenience to you as reasonably possible. COMPANY
reserves the right to modify or discontinue, temporarily or
permanently, individual services provided by it or third parties via
the Services, or the Services themselves. If a service is or the
Services are to be permanently discontinued by COMPANY it will notify
you of this fact and reimburse any pre-paid fees.

Contracts for Products and Services of Third Parties. The Service may
also include access to products and services of independent third
parties either directly or via links to sites operated by such third
parties. Where reasonably possible, COMPANY shall indicate the
products and services as third party content. Even though they may be
co-branded with COMPANY and therefore include COMPANY's trademarks,
the contracts for products and services provided by third parties are
concluded directly between you and the third party. COMPANY SHALL NOT
BE A PARTY TO, OR IN ANY WAY RESPONSIBLE FOR, ANY TRANSACTION
CONCERNING PRODUCTS OR SERVICES MADE AVAILABLE FROM SUCH THIRD PARTIES
OR FOR ANY CONTENT OR INFORMATION PRESENTED IN CONNECTION WITH ANY
PRODUCTS OR SERVICES OF THRID PARTIES.

PrivacyYou acknowledge that COMPANY collects and processes "personal
information"(i.e. information that could be used to contact you, such
as full name, postal address, phone number or e-mail address),
"financial information" (i.e. credit card numbers, bank account
information or passwords) or "demographic and usage information" (i.e.
information that you submit, or that we collect, that is neither
personal information nor financial information but necessary for the
proper functioning and billing of our service, such as date regarding
the start and end and the extent of your usage of the service),
subject to the rest of this paragraph in order to operate this site.
We may pass on your personal information to your mobile phone service
provider to secure collection of fees. Further, we may pass on your
information to governmental agencies, including but not limited to
courts and district attorneys' offices, for legal proceedings and the
prevention of crimes. Personal information collected by COMPANY may be
stored and processed in Germany or any other country in which COMPANY
or its agents maintain facilities. By using the Service, you consent
to any such transfer of information outside of your country. Your
personal information, financial and demographic information will be
deleted no later than six months after termination of your
subscription. COMPANY may store your information beyond this date if
that is required by law or contract.

DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTIES AND LIMITATION OF LIABILITIESYOU UNDERSTAND
THAT YOUR USE OF THE SERVICE AND THE DOWNLOAD OF CONTENT IS AT YOUR
OWN SOLE RISK AND THAT YOU MUST COMPLY WITH THE INSTRUCTIONS GIVEN BY
COMPANY.
EXCEPT IN JURISDICTIONS WHERE SUCH PROVISIONS ARE RESTRICTED,
YOU AGREE THAT COMPANY'S ENTIRE LIABILITY TO YOU OR ANY THIRD PERSON,
AND YOUR OR ANY THIRD PERSON'S EXCLUSIVE REMEDY, IN LAW, IN EQUITY, OR
OTHERWISE, WITH RESPECT TO THE SERVICE(S) PROVIDED UNDER THIS
AGREEMENT AND/OR FOR ANY BREACH OF THIS AGREEMENT IS SOLELY LIMITED TO
THE AMOUNT YOU PAID FOR SUCH SERVICE(S) DURING THE TERM OF THIS
AGREEMENT. EXCEPT IN JURISDICTIONS WHERE SUCH PROVISIONS ARE
RESTRICTED, COMPANY, ITS LICENSORS AND CONTRACTORS (INCLUDING ANY
THIRD PARTIES PROVIDING ALL OR PART OF THE SERVICES) SHALL NOT BE
LIABLE FOR ANY INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES
EVEN IF COMPANY HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.
TO THE EXTENT THAT A COUNTRY DOES NOT PERMIT THE EXCLUSION OR
LIMITATION OF LIABILITY AS SET FORTH HEREIN, COMPANY'S LIABILITY IS
LIMITED TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW IN SUCH COUNTRY.

Indemnification You agree to indemnify and hold COMPANY, its parent
company, subsidiaries, affiliates, officers, agents, directors,
contractors, licensors and other partners and employees, harmless from
any loss, liability, claim, or demand, including reasonable attorney's
fees, made by any third party due to or arising out of or in
connection with (a) your use of the Service, and (b) the breach by you
of your representations and warranties set forth herein.

Intellectual Property Rights Except as otherwise set forth herein, all
right, title and interest in and to any intellectual property,
proprietary rights or other rights related to intangible property
which are used, developed, comprising, embodied in, or practiced in
connection with any of the Service ("Company Intellectual Property
Rights") are owned by Company or its licensors, and you agree to make
no claim of interest in or ownership of any such Company Intellectual
Property Rights. You acknowledge that no title to the Company
Intellectual Property Rights is transferred to you, and that you do
not obtain any rights, express or implied, in the Service, other than
the rights expressly granted in this Agreement.

Termination and Cancellation of Services; Cooling- Off Period

Fees. The monthly fees for the Subscription Service are available at
COMPANY's web site. The monthly fee shall be charged for every
subscription period the contract is in effect. You shall pay COMPANY
for the Services and the use thereof in accordance with the price
lists in force at the time of your order. Unless otherwise indicated,
the charges shall be billed according to the billing method agreed
upon by you and your mobile operator. Where applicable, the charges
can also be paid by using credits, with your credit card, by bank
transfer or through your user account. The different payment methods
are specified during the order process for the product you chose.
COMPANY may also invoice you for the charges of third parties whose
products or services are available through the Service if this has
been agreed upon with said third party. Such charges shall be invoiced
in accordance with the fees of such third parties.

Fee Changes. All fees, including fees for existing subscription
contracts, are subject to change upon notice from COMPANY. COMPANY
will provide you with reasonable notice of such change. If you do not
accept the new fees (which will be applicable on a prospective basis
only), you may cancel your subscription and/or your account effective
immediately upon termination.

Late Payments. Any past due unpaid amount shall bear an annual
interest of four percent (4%) or the highest interest allowed by
applicable law, which ever is lower.
Termination and Cancellation of Services; Cooling- Off PeriodTo
unsubscribe by text message, text "STOP" to 85085, call 0808 234 3605
or send an email to . The termination shall
become effective immediately upon termination.
You agree that COMPANY,
at its sole discretion, may at any time terminate your use of the
Service or individual services provided via the Services and remove
and discard any content within such services, if you remain in breach
of this agreement for more than seven days from notice of such breach.
COMPANY may cancel all or any of the Services (or individual services
provided via the Services) if COMPANY believes that you have violated
or acted inconsistently with these TERMS. You agree that upon
termination of your access to the Service under any provision of these
TERMS, COMPANY may immediately deactivate or delete your account and
all related information and files in your account and/or bar any
further access to such files or the Service. Further, you agree that
COMPANY shall not be liable to you or any third party for any
termination of your access to the Service. If you cancel your account
or subscription for any reason, COMPANY will not refund any of your
fees paid to date, except as provided in provision 2 of these TERMS.
CUSTOMER ALSO HAS THE STATUTORY RIGHT TO WITHDRAW FROM THE CONTRACT
WITHIN 10 DAYS AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE AGREEMENT ("COOLING-OFF
PERIOD"), PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT YOUR RIGHT TO WITHDRAWAL IMMEDIATELY
TERMINATES IF YOUR FIRST USE OF THE SERVICE OCCURS BEFORE THE END OF
THE COOLING-OFF PERIOD. TO WITHDRAW FROM THE AGREEMENT WITHIN THE
WITHDRAWAL PERIOD, SEND A TERMINATION NOTIFICATION VIA E-MAIL TO
OR VIA POSTAL MAIL TO Guerilla Mobile Berlin
GmbH, ADDRESS: Pfuelstr. 5, 10997 Berlin, Germany, WHICH COMMUNICATION
MUST CLEARLY STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER, AND BE
POSTMARKED WITHIN THE WITHDRAWAL PERIOD.

Miscellaneous Provisions

Notices and Announcements. Except as expressly provided otherwise
herein, all notices to Company shall be in writing and delivered to
the following address:
Guerilla Mobile Berlin GmbH Pfuelstr. 510997 Berlin Germany COMPANY
shall serve notices related to this contract by posting them on the
COMPANY web site or by sending them to the postal address or e-mail
address you have given to COMPANY or as a text message to your mobile
phone number. Notices sent by mail shall be deemed received seven days
after they were sent. Notices posted on the COMPANY Web site or sent
by e-mail or as a text message shall be deemed received on the weekday
following the day when they were posted or sent.

Changes of TERMS. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT THIS AGREEMENT IS
SUBJECT TO CHANGE BY COMPANY AT ANY TIME, WHICH CHANGES SHALL BE
EFFECTIVE UPON POSTING SUCH CHANGES TO THE WEBSITE. ANY USE OF THE
SERVICE AFTER SUCH POSTING SHALL CONSTITUTE ACCEPTANCE OF SUCH CHANGES
BY YOU.

Other terms, entire agreement. These TERMS are in addition to any
COMPANY or third party terms and conditions applicable to products and
services, which may be posted in connection with such products and
services ("Specific Terms"). In case of any discrepancy between the
TERMS and such Specific Terms, the latter shall prevail. These TERMS
and any other terms or documents referred to herein represent your
entire agreement with COMPANY with respect to your use of the Service.
You understand and agree that, except as expressly set forth herein,
this Agreement is not intended to confer and does not confer any
rights or remedies upon any person other than the parties to this
Agreement.

Severablity. If any part of this Agreement is held invalid or
unenforceable, that portion shall be construed in a manner consistent
with applicable law to reflect, as nearly as possible, the original
intentions of the parties, and the remaining portions shall remain in
full force and effect.

Waiver. COMPANY's failure to pursue any available claim or defense
pursuant to this Agreement or otherwise will not be a waiver of such
claim or defense. The headings used in this Agreement are for
convenience only, and will have no effect on the interpretation or
legal enforceability of the terms herein.
Headings. The section headings appearing in this Agreement are
inserted only as a matter of convenience and in no way define, limit,
construe or describe the scope or extent of such section or in any way
affect such section.

Survival. In the event this Agreement terminates as provided herein,
Sections 2(c)(h), 4, 5, 6 and 9 of these TERMS shall survive such
expiration or termination.
Governing Law and Jurisdiction. This Agreement and your use of the
Website and Service shall be governed and construed in accordance with
the laws of the United Kingdom. You further agree that for any matter
arising out of or pertaining to this Agreement venue shall be proper
in courts and legal tribunals located in London, UK.

Bobmobile UK is a service of Guerilla Mobile Berlin GmbH Address:
Pfuelstr. 5, 10997 Berlin, Germany

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Whois has this info.:

Domain name:
bobmobile.co.uk

Registrant:
Torsten Narayan

Registrant type:
Unknown

Registrant's address:
Bob Mobile AG
Malkastenstrasse 3
Duesseldorf
40211
Germany

Registrar:
InterNetWire Communications GmbH [Tag = INTERNETWIRE-DE]
URL: http://www.internetwire.de

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 02-Nov-2004
Renewal date: 02-Nov-2010
Last updated: 07-Jan-2009

Registration status:
Registered until renewal date.

Name servers:
ns1.hk-net.de
ns2.hk-net.de

WHOIS lookup made at 11:38:17 17-Mar-2010

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Domain: internetwire.de

Nserver: ns1.internetwire.de 95.130.16.242
Nserver: ns2.internetwire.de 213.155.72.138
Nserver: ns3.internetwire.de 62.91.17.44
Nserver: ns4.internetwire.de 213.131.235.250
Status: connect
Changed: 2010-02-17T10:29:12+01:00

[Tech-C]
Type: ROLE
Name: InterNetWire Hostmaster
Address: InterNetWire Communications GmbH
Address: Wilhelm-Wagenfeld-Str. 20
Pcode: 80807
City: Muenchen
Country: DE
Phone: +49 89 550610
Fax: +49 89 55061199
Email:
Changed: 2006-02-22T15:23:59+01:00

[Zone-C]
Type: ROLE
Name: InterNetWire Hostmaster
Address: InterNetWire Communications GmbH
Address: Wilhelm-Wagenfeld-Str. 20
Pcode: 80807
City: Muenchen
Country: DE
Phone: +49 89 550610
Fax: +49 89 55061199
Email:
Changed: 2006-02-22T15:23:59+01:00

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