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Old September 3rd 10, 02:38 PM posted to uk.telecom.mobile
Les Desser
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http://business.orange.co.uk/home/so...services/netwo
rk-and-connectivity/coverage-solutions/uma

"Help your employees stay connected with enhanced network coverage at
home. We've added UMA technology to some of our phones to boost their
signal."

Basically, it uses your own home wireless network and Internet to
seamlessly route mobile calls.

Would anyone know if this would also work if used abroad?

Seems like a simple solution for using an Orange mobile abroad -
obviously limited to staying at a fixed location.

See below for a write-up from PC Pro

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/realworld/360...lackberry-call
s-over-wi-fi

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Old September 3rd 10, 04:26 PM posted to uk.telecom.mobile
jak
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"Les Desser" wrote in message
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BORING

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Old September 3rd 10, 08:47 PM posted to uk.telecom.mobile
zeitgeist
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On 2010-09-03 15:38:33 +0100, Les Desser said:

http://business.orange.co.uk/home/so...services/netwo
rk-and-connectivity/coverage-solutions/uma

"Help your employees stay connected with enhanced network coverage at
home. We've added UMA technology to some of our phones to boost their
signal."

Basically, it uses your own home wireless network and Internet to
seamlessly route mobile calls.

Would anyone know if this would also work if used abroad?

Seems like a simple solution for using an Orange mobile abroad -
obviously limited to staying at a fixed location.

See below for a write-up from PC Pro

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/realworld/360...lackberry-call
s-over-wi-fi


I'd be interested in how this gets responded to. I cannot imagine that
any of the networks would allow this as it would cut donw on the
admittedly reduced roaming revenue. I'd also be interested whether
Orange is intending to make UMA available on other handsets e.g. iPhone
4 with its well known reception issues.

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Old September 3rd 10, 09:25 PM posted to uk.telecom.mobile
Whiskers
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On 2010-09-03, zeitgeist wrote:
On 2010-09-03 15:38:33 +0100, Les Desser said:

http://business.orange.co.uk/home/so...services/netwo
rk-and-connectivity/coverage-solutions/uma

"Help your employees stay connected with enhanced network coverage at
home. We've added UMA technology to some of our phones to boost their
signal."

Basically, it uses your own home wireless network and Internet to
seamlessly route mobile calls.

Would anyone know if this would also work if used abroad?

Seems like a simple solution for using an Orange mobile abroad -
obviously limited to staying at a fixed location.

See below for a write-up from PC Pro

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/realworld/360...lackberry-call
s-over-wi-fi


I'd be interested in how this gets responded to. I cannot imagine that
any of the networks would allow this as it would cut donw on the
admittedly reduced roaming revenue. I'd also be interested whether
Orange is intending to make UMA available on other handsets e.g. iPhone
4 with its well known reception issues.


I wouldn't be surprised if Orange restrict the wifi access to specified IP
numbers only (namely, those used by the employees of their commercial
customers). For one thing, how else could calls be routed to the correct
internet connection if the handset is 'off' the cellphone network?

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Old September 4th 10, 07:18 AM posted to uk.telecom.mobile
Jono
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Les Desser wrote on 03/09/2010 :
http://business.orange.co.uk/home/so...services/netwo
rk-and-connectivity/coverage-solutions/uma

"Help your employees stay connected with enhanced network coverage at home.
We've added UMA technology to some of our phones to boost their signal."

Basically, it uses your own home wireless network and Internet to seamlessly
route mobile calls.

Would anyone know if this would also work if used abroad?

Seems like a simple solution for using an Orange mobile abroad - obviously
limited to staying at a fixed location.

See below for a write-up from PC Pro

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/realworld/360...lackberry-call
s-over-wi-fi


Works perfectly abroad, however, the call will appear on the invoice as
a roaming call and be charged accordingly.

Haven't had (and won't have) the opportunity to set up a VPN to see if
the IP check can be circumvented.


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Old September 4th 10, 08:20 PM posted to uk.telecom.mobile
Les Desser
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In article ,
Whiskers Fri, 3 Sep 2010 22:25:44 writes

For one thing, how else could calls be routed to the correct internet
connection if the handset is 'off' the cellphone network?


I don't see that as a problem at all.

With the correct routing infrastructure in place, there should be no
difference whether a phone is connected to the Orange network via a
radio tower or the Internet.
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Old September 4th 10, 08:22 PM posted to uk.telecom.mobile
Les Desser
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In article , Jono
Sat, 4 Sep 2010 08:18:53 writes

Works perfectly abroad, however, the call will appear on the invoice as
a roaming call and be charged accordingly.


What excuse can they have to do that? They are not being charged by any
third party to carry that call.
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Old September 5th 10, 09:09 AM posted to uk.telecom.mobile
alexd
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Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.mobile Job Justification Hearings, Les Desser
chose the tried and tested strategy of:

In article , Jono
Sat, 4 Sep 2010 08:18:53 writes

Works perfectly abroad, however, the call will appear on the invoice as
a roaming call and be charged accordingly.


What excuse can they have to do that? They are not being charged by any
third party to carry that call.


Insert standard "you-must-be-new-around-here" comment about mobile telcos
billing being based on what they can get away with, rather than what the
cost is.

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Old September 5th 10, 09:41 AM posted to uk.telecom.mobile
Les Desser
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In article , alexd
Sun, 5 Sep 2010 10:09:48 writes

Insert standard "you-must-be-new-around-here" comment about mobile
telcos billing being based on what they can get away with, rather than
what the cost is.


Do we not therefore have a "Regulator"?
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Old September 5th 10, 03:03 PM posted to uk.telecom.mobile
Jono
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Les Desser used his keyboard to write :
In article , Jono
Sat, 4 Sep 2010 08:18:53 writes

Works perfectly abroad, however, the call will appear on the invoice as a
roaming call and be charged accordingly.


What excuse can they have to do that? They are not being charged by any
third party to carry that call.


Would you rather it didn't work at all?

Vodafone's method, a Femtocell won't connect from foreign IPs. (and
it's a bugger of a job convincing them otherwise if they think you
don't have a UK address)


 




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