http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE6823DE20100903:

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British customers of France Telecom's Orange and Deutsche Telekom's
T-Mobile will be able to roam across each other's UK networks from
October, the new joint venture of the two companies said.

Everything Everywhere, Britain's biggest mobile operator since a
merger took effect in July, said on Friday customers would be able to
opt in to switching networks whenever their signal was low, starting
from October 5.

From early next year, once glitches are ironed out, switching to the
best of the two signals will become automatic, Everything Everywhere's
Chief Executive Tom Alexander told journalists in London.

"It will be just as though the phone is roaming abroad, but in the
UK," he said.

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Martin Jay

On 04/09/2010 14:19, Martin Jay wrote:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE6823DE20100903:

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British customers of France Telecom's Orange and Deutsche Telekom's
T-Mobile will be able to roam across each other's UK networks from
October, the new joint venture of the two companies said.

Everything Everywhere, Britain's biggest mobile operator since a
merger took effect in July, said on Friday customers would be able to
opt in to switching networks whenever their signal was low, starting
from October 5.

From early next year, once glitches are ironed out, switching to the
best of the two signals will become automatic, Everything Everywhere's
Chief Executive Tom Alexander told journalists in London.

"It will be just as though the phone is roaming abroad, but in the
UK," he said.

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Anyone care to speculate whether that will work with my Orange OVP
Virgin phone?
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On Sep 4, 4:30*pm, Roger Mills wrote:

On 04/09/2010 14:19, Martin Jay wrote:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE6823DE20100903:

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British customers of France Telecom's Orange and Deutsche Telekom's
T-Mobile will be able to roam across each other's UK networks from
October, the new joint venture of the two companies said.

Everything Everywhere, Britain's biggest mobile operator since a
merger took effect in July, said on Friday customers would be able to
opt in to switching networks whenever their signal was low, starting
from October 5.

*From early next year, once glitches are ironed out, switching to the
best of the two signals will become automatic, Everything Everywhere's
Chief Executive Tom Alexander told journalists in London.

"It will be just as though the phone is roaming abroad, but in the
UK," he said.

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Anyone care to speculate whether that will work with my Orange OVP
Virgin phone?

No it won't.

On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 16:30:51 +0100, Roger Mills
wrote:
On 04/09/2010 14:19, Martin Jay wrote:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE6823DE20100903:

----- Begin Quote -----

British customers of France Telecom's Orange and Deutsche Telekom's
T-Mobile will be able to roam across each other's UK networks from
October, the new joint venture of the two companies said.

Everything Everywhere, Britain's biggest mobile operator since a
merger took effect in July, said on Friday customers would be able to
opt in to switching networks whenever their signal was low, starting
from October 5.

From early next year, once glitches are ironed out, switching to the
best of the two signals will become automatic, Everything Everywhere's
Chief Executive Tom Alexander told journalists in London.

"It will be just as though the phone is roaming abroad, but in the
UK," he said.

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Anyone care to speculate whether that will work with my Orange OVP
Virgin phone?

In Usenet article "JL"
mentioned that, at least, initially some handsets wouldn't be
compatible with roaming.

Despite it's name, OVP Virgin is an Orange tariff so I would expect
users to be able to join the initial roaming 'beta test.'

And I would expect all users of Orange and T-Mobile, including those
who use virtuals, to be able to use both networks when full roaming
becomes a reality next year.
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Martin Jay

"Martin Jay" wrote in message
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British customers of France Telecom's Orange and Deutsche Telekom's
T-Mobile will be able to roam across each other's UK networks from
October, the new joint venture of the two companies said.


Any thoughts on the 3 network that presently fall backs to 2g on Orange..So
would it also fall back to t-mobile?

Dominique

On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:19:06 +0100, Martin Jay
wrote:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE6823DE20100903:

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Everything Everywhere, Britain's biggest mobile operator since a
merger took effect in July, said on Friday customers would be able to
opt in to switching networks whenever their signal was low, starting
from October 5.

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BBC News has now published an article about this, see
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11199786:

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Customers of Orange and T-Mobile will soon be able to hop between the
two mobile networks.

The deal is one of the first practical benefits from the recent merger
of the two firms, which have 30 million customers combined.

The network sharing deal is limited to 2G signals, meaning that
customers will see little benefit when using the mobile web.

Analysts said that T-Mobile had the most to gain from the merger.

"Outside of the South-East [of England] there has been a constant
perception that T-Mobile is an underperforming network," said Shaun
Collins of research firm CCS Insight.

"This literally takes it away overnight."

[...]

Customers of the two firms will have to sign up for the free "roaming"
service, which goes live on 5 October.

[...]

Next year Everything Everywhere - the company that runs Orange and
T-Mobile in the UK - said that phones would automatically switch to
whichever of the two networks has the strongest signal mid-call.

It said it also plans to roll it out to 3G services.

When it does, Orange customers will be able to use a 3G network owned
and operated by Mobile Broadband Network Limited (MBNL), a joint
venture company owned by Three and T-Mobile.

Orange joined MBNL on the 16 August.

"Everything Everywhere will be adding Orange sites to the network it
shares with Three in the course of time, and Three customers will get
access to a significant proportion of those as they are added," said a
spokesperson for Everything Everywhere.

Three customers are already able to use the Orange network for 2G
calls and texts.

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Martin Jay

"Martin Jay" wrote in message
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On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:19:06 +0100, Martin Jay

"Outside of the South-East [of England] there has been a constant
perception that T-Mobile is an underperforming network," said Shaun
Collins of research firm CCS Insight.


Some of us in the South East are not to impressed either!


Customers of the two firms will have to sign up for the free "roaming"
service, which goes live on 5 October.

I wonder how Virtual network customers such as those of Virgin will be
treated?



Next year Everything Everywhere - the company that runs Orange and
T-Mobile in the UK - said that phones would automatically switch to
whichever of the two networks has the strongest signal mid-call.

It said it also plans to roll it out to 3G services.

That will be much better.


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Michael Chare

On 2010-09-07 19:14:11 +0100, Martin Jay said:

On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:19:06 +0100, Martin Jay
wrote:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE6823DE20100903:

----- Begin Quote -----

Everything Everywhere, Britain's biggest mobile operator since a
merger took effect in July, said on Friday customers would be able to
opt in to switching networks whenever their signal was low, starting
from October 5.

----- End Quote -----

BBC News has now published an article about this, see
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11199786:

----- Begin Quote -----

Customers of Orange and T-Mobile will soon be able to hop between the
two mobile networks.

The deal is one of the first practical benefits from the recent merger
of the two firms, which have 30 million customers combined.

The network sharing deal is limited to 2G signals, meaning that
customers will see little benefit when using the mobile web.

Analysts said that T-Mobile had the most to gain from the merger.

"Outside of the South-East [of England] there has been a constant
perception that T-Mobile is an underperforming network," said Shaun
Collins of research firm CCS Insight.

"This literally takes it away overnight."

[...]

Customers of the two firms will have to sign up for the free "roaming"
service, which goes live on 5 October.

[...]

Next year Everything Everywhere - the company that runs Orange and
T-Mobile in the UK - said that phones would automatically switch to
whichever of the two networks has the strongest signal mid-call.

It said it also plans to roll it out to 3G services.

When it does, Orange customers will be able to use a 3G network owned
and operated by Mobile Broadband Network Limited (MBNL), a joint
venture company owned by Three and T-Mobile.

Orange joined MBNL on the 16 August.

"Everything Everywhere will be adding Orange sites to the network it
shares with Three in the course of time, and Three customers will get
access to a significant proportion of those as they are added," said a
spokesperson for Everything Everywhere.

Three customers are already able to use the Orange network for 2G
calls and texts.

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This is a total game changer, especially in areas where T-Mobile has
been poor. It's also good for Orange and Three.......

On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 20:50:49 +0100, zeitgeist wrote:

This is a total game changer, especially in areas where T-Mobile has
been poor. It's also good for Orange and Three.......

So when my phone changes from Orange to T Mobile (unlikely I know),
will it then say T mobile on the display?

Jules

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On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 20:50:49 +0100, zeitgeist wrote:

This is a total game changer, especially in areas where T-Mobile has
been poor. It's also good for Orange and Three.......

So when my phone changes from Orange to T Mobile (unlikely I know),
will it then say T mobile on the display?

Jules

It probably depends how they implement the merger.

My phone says Virgin when on the T-Mobile network which must come from the
Sim card somehow, but what appears to be the correct network name if I am on
a Foreign network.


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Michael Chare