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Old October 14th 05, 03:48 PM posted to uk.telecom.mobile
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A few times recently my mobile has rung once and then stopped (no message
left).

Just now it happened again so I called the number back (masking my CLI
first). An announcement came on: "welcome to the privacy network. That
number is no longer in use". He then gave out the url of a 'privacy number'
website which I won't give out lest I get accused of spamming!

Basically the website gives you a free 07xxx xxx xxx number which you can
then divert to your actual number. It's only for people to call you and it
doesn't mask the CLI of your actual number when you dial out.

God knows how much it costs to phone one of these numbers. Also, how can I
have been called by a 'privacy' number when the announcement says that you
can't use it to call out?

Is this just a scheme/scam to tempt people into phoning the number back and
then signing up for a privacy number? (I'm sure it is!).

The number was 07096 809 401. Hopefully I haven't been charged an
extortionate amount to phone it.

Has anyone else had these one ring calls? Very annoying. Is there anything I
can do about it?



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Old October 14th 05, 04:41 PM posted to uk.telecom.mobile
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Paul D wrote:

God knows how much it costs to phone one of these [070...] numbers.


I have had the charge bands for calls from BT landlines to different
numbers placed in the BT Charge Rates table, and the rates for each band
placed in the BT Charge Codes table. For example, as of March 2005,
07096 8nn nnn was in band pn2 (Personal number band 2), which was
charged at 0.50 GBP per minute at all times.

Please note that the table is very fine-grained; the band for calls to
07096 9nn nnn is different.

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A few times recently my mobile has rung once and then stopped (no message
left).

Just now it happened again so I called the number back (masking my CLI
first). An announcement came on: "welcome to the privacy network. That
number is no longer in use". He then gave out the url of a 'privacy
number' website which I won't give out lest I get accused of spamming!

Basically the website gives you a free 07xxx xxx xxx number which you can
then divert to your actual number. It's only for people to call you and it
doesn't mask the CLI of your actual number when you dial out.

God knows how much it costs to phone one of these numbers. Also, how can I
have been called by a 'privacy' number when the announcement says that you
can't use it to call out?

Is this just a scheme/scam to tempt people into phoning the number back
and then signing up for a privacy number? (I'm sure it is!).

The number was 07096 809 401. Hopefully I haven't been charged an
extortionate amount to phone it.

Has anyone else had these one ring calls? Very annoying. Is there anything
I can do about it?


You're right to be cautious. It's a scam. 50p per minute at all times from a
BT landline to that number.

I had a similar (yet different) call to my mobile, that urged me to call
back. Costs them very little to make the call to you you, and it seems
enough people ring the 07096 number back, for them to make a profit.

You should log it with ICSTIS.

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On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:48:21 GMT, "Paul D" wrote:

A few times recently my mobile has rung once and then stopped (no message
left).

Just now it happened again so I called the number back (masking my CLI
first). An announcement came on: "welcome to the privacy network. That
number is no longer in use". He then gave out the url of a 'privacy number'
website which I won't give out lest I get accused of spamming!

Basically the website gives you a free 07xxx xxx xxx number which you can
then divert to your actual number. It's only for people to call you and it
doesn't mask the CLI of your actual number when you dial out.

God knows how much it costs to phone one of these numbers. Also, how can I
have been called by a 'privacy' number when the announcement says that you
can't use it to call out?

Is this just a scheme/scam to tempt people into phoning the number back and
then signing up for a privacy number? (I'm sure it is!).

The number was 07096 809 401. Hopefully I haven't been charged an
extortionate amount to phone it.

Has anyone else had these one ring calls? Very annoying. Is there anything I
can do about it?


OFTEL are already aware - see
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/bulletins/co...w_788/?a=87101

However I can't see anywhere that a call to an 07xxx number costs
anything excessive. Maybe a bit of an urban hoax ???

In any case the max prem rate call charge that OFTEL allows is in the
1.50 per minute region. There was talk of very specialised services
coming in that charged 5 per minute but they haven't materalised
thankfully.

Hope this helps !

Jim
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:48:21 GMT, "Paul D" wrote:

A few times recently my mobile has rung once and then stopped (no message
left).

Just now it happened again so I called the number back (masking my CLI
first). An announcement came on: "welcome to the privacy network. That
number is no longer in use". He then gave out the url of a 'privacy
number'
website which I won't give out lest I get accused of spamming!

Basically the website gives you a free 07xxx xxx xxx number which you can
then divert to your actual number. It's only for people to call you and it
doesn't mask the CLI of your actual number when you dial out.

God knows how much it costs to phone one of these numbers. Also, how can I
have been called by a 'privacy' number when the announcement says that you
can't use it to call out?

Is this just a scheme/scam to tempt people into phoning the number back
and
then signing up for a privacy number? (I'm sure it is!).

The number was 07096 809 401. Hopefully I haven't been charged an
extortionate amount to phone it.

Has anyone else had these one ring calls? Very annoying. Is there anything
I
can do about it?


OFTEL are already aware - see
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/bulletins/co...w_788/?a=87101

However I can't see anywhere that a call to an 07xxx number costs
anything excessive. Maybe a bit of an urban hoax ???


No hoax.

07973 - Orange mobile telephone, innocuous
070964 - pn2 rate at 50p per minute at all times
070968 - pn2 rate at 50p per minute at all times

Not all 070 numbers are scary, but one should keep a rate table handy before
making a call to one.

In any case the max prem rate call charge that OFTEL allows is in the
1.50 per minute region. There was talk of very specialised services
coming in that charged 5 per minute but they haven't materalised
thankfully.





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On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:25:02 +0000 (UTC), "Andy"
wrote:

Not all 070 numbers are scary, but one should keep a rate table handy before
making a call to one.


We have our LCR system set up to block all 070 numbers. Much easier
than worrying about which to allow!

If someone wants to talk to me on the telephone, they can ring me. I
never call back when someone I don't know leaves a message or texts
me.

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Originally Posted by Paul D
A few times recently my mobile has rung once and then stopped (no message
left).

Just now it happened again so I called the number back (masking my CLI
first). An announcement came on: "welcome to the privacy network. That
number is no longer in use". He then gave out the url of a 'privacy number'
website which I won't give out lest I get accused of spamming!

Basically the website gives you a free 07xxx xxx xxx number which you can
then divert to your actual number. It's only for people to call you and it
doesn't mask the CLI of your actual number when you dial out.

God knows how much it costs to phone one of these numbers. Also, how can I
have been called by a 'privacy' number when the announcement says that you
can't use it to call out?

Is this just a scheme/scam to tempt people into phoning the number back and
then signing up for a privacy number? (I'm sure it is!).

The number was 07096 809 401. Hopefully I haven't been charged an
extortionate amount to phone it.

Has anyone else had these one ring calls? Very annoying. Is there anything I
can do about it?
Hi,

*ALERT - PRIVACY NUMBERS SCAM*

I'm afraid that yes, it appears to be a scam. You are charged a fortune to ring the number back. I have logged a complaint with my 'phone company and with BBC's Watchdog.

The number 07096807698 rang me twice then stopped. Like you, I thought it might be a friend trying to reach me but when I called it I got the same message as you did (to visit www.privacynumbers.com); however I was charged 75p for the call and only in the second call did I realise this. I sent an email to their contact address to complain and ask why a number no longer in use is calling me and can I have my money back please. I doubt I'll get it! I suggest you log a complaint with your mobile company to start with and see what they advise.


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