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Old May 16th 18, 09:28 AM posted to uk.telecom.mobile
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On 16 May 2018 09:10:57 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:

On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:58:26 +0100, Scott wrote:

What about Google Pixel? Does this not guarantee latest updates?


Google devices do get very timely updates. However, there comes a point
when they stop doing that as they can't realistically be back compatible
with older hardware.

I bought a Nexus 5 four years ago - I still use it, and am happy with it.
It was updated through multiple versions but has now stuck on Android
Marshmallow, which isn't too bad, and certainly better than what Samsung
ever managed.


Doesn't the same ultimately apply with Apple as well?

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Scott wrote:
I bought a Nexus 5 four years ago - I still use it, and am happy with it.
It was updated through multiple versions but has now stuck on Android
Marshmallow, which isn't too bad, and certainly better than what Samsung
ever managed.


Doesn't the same ultimately apply with Apple as well?


Ultimately of course!! BUT Apple support handsets for about 4 years from when
they go off sale - not from when they are launched. This is several years
longer than even the best of Android phones
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On Wed, 16 May 2018 10:28:30 +0100, Scott wrote:

On 16 May 2018 09:10:57 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:

On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:58:26 +0100, Scott wrote:

What about Google Pixel? Does this not guarantee latest updates?


Google devices do get very timely updates. However, there comes a point
when they stop doing that as they can't realistically be back compatible
with older hardware.

I bought a Nexus 5 four years ago - I still use it, and am happy with
it.
It was updated through multiple versions but has now stuck on Android
Marshmallow, which isn't too bad, and certainly better than what Samsung
ever managed.


Doesn't the same ultimately apply with Apple as well?


Yes, although they seem to be more aggressive about getting people to
upgrade.

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On Wednesday, 16 May 2018 at 10:05am BST, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:58:26 +0100, Scott wrote:

What about Google Pixel? Does this not guarantee latest updates?


Google devices do get very timely updates. However, there comes a point
when they stop doing that as they can't realistically be back compatible
with older hardware.


Google seem to stop support sooner than you think. I bought a Nexus 6 in
December 2014 (it was released in November 2014). By October 2016 Google
had announced an end to Android updates (the final update was delayed by
months though but that's another story). That's less than a 2 year
contract if you bought it on release. Security updates stopped in
October 2017.

I don't know about the Pixel phones but that was fairly typical for
Google's Nexus phones: 2 years Android support plus 1 year security
support.

By contrast my old iPhone 4S was fully supported for 5 years.

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In article , Chris wrote:
The moto 4G is quite an old phone now. I doubt there are any
updates for it now. Where do so you see that there might be updates
available elsewhere ?


Moto promised a Nougat update for the G4 Play some time ago, and I've
seen people (in forums, etc) claiming to have received an OTA update
for some months ... but my phone never updated, so I was beginning to
doubt them.

Then, a couple of weeks ago while I was visiting a friend in South
Korea my phone suddenly picked up the update (as did that of SWMBO,
also a G4 Play). I presume that was coincidence (that the update
happened when we were out of the country, not that both phones got the
update at the same time) ... but one has to wonder ...

Anyhow, there certainly *IS* an official Android 7.1.1 update for the
UK model G4 Play (Model XT1604), and it can be had OTA ... if you're
lucky!

FWIW: My phone is also a retail phone bought SIM-free in the UK (though
not from Carphone Warehouse) and normally used with a Vodafone SIM-only
contract SIM, though I was using a Korean SIM when it updated.

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Scott wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2018 07:37:35 -0000 (UTC), Chris
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Most of these links are hearsay. I also got burned with my Moto 4G with a
promise of an update to nougat from Three/Motorola which never
materialised.

That was my last android phone. Until all Android devices get all relevant
updates direct from Google for a decent amount of time- two years minimum
from last day of availability- I'm not going to consider them as a viable
product.


What about Google Pixel? Does this not guarantee latest updates?


Only for a couple of years. For that price I may as well get an iPhone. So
I did. They consistently get 4 years of updates, direct from Apple with no
unreliable middle-men.



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in 666926 20180516 101057 Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:58:26 +0100, Scott wrote:

What about Google Pixel? Does this not guarantee latest updates?


Google devices do get very timely updates. However, there comes a point
when they stop doing that as they can't realistically be back compatible
with older hardware.

I bought a Nexus 5 four years ago - I still use it, and am happy with it.
It was updated through multiple versions but has now stuck on Android
Marshmallow, which isn't too bad, and certainly better than what Samsung
ever managed.


I've had 4 Nexus devices; currently using a 5X, which is still getting updates.
When Google stops supporting them I switch to LineageOS, even my Nexus 4
is on Android 8.1
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Bob Martin wrote:

even my Nexus 4 is on Android 8.1


Yes I upgraded mine to 8.1, but found there was only a tiny amount of
room left on /system.

I've managed to delete and recreate partitions to give /system another
1GB taken from /data. The phone boots happily like that, but as soon as
I install one of the gapps packages, the startup scripts (zygote etc)
keep dying and it bootloops ...


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