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On 06/07/2018 02:07, Brian Gregory wrote:
On 05/07/2018 19:10, Chris wrote:
Chris in Makati wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 09:22:00 +0100, Someone Somewhere
wrote:

On 04/07/2018 09:11, Chris wrote:
Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 03/07/2018 22:43, Chris wrote:
Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 03/07/2018 16:22, Chris wrote:
Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 03/07/2018 07:25, Tweed wrote:
Chris wrote:

Sorry to pepper so many questions at you lot, but got
another one.

In France now and the mifi happily shows it's connected
to "orange" with
2/3 bars and a 3G symbol. However, when connecting to it
via Wi-Fi on our
phones results in no internet connectivity.

The admin interface shows as "disconnected" yet it
received several texts
from EE (it's one of their Sims) welcoming the device to
France.

Any ideas why it won't route any IP traffic? I did
register the SIM in the
UK before we left and checked it worked.



Perhaps for whatever reason, the billing system thinks
the SIM has no
credit/contract?

Is the APN setup correctly? That would result in SMS
working, but no IP
traffic.


How would I know? In the device under "profile list" it
only lists "orange
(D)". The APN is orange.fr and all the settings are greyed
out.

It worked fine at home.

Hang on - the APN is orange.fr? Who is the SIM from? For
some reason I
thought it was 3UK? If so, you'll need to be using the 3 APN
and not
Oranges...


See upthread. It has an EE SIM.

In which case the APN should still not be orange.fr ...


What should it be showing, then? Remember I'm in France with an
EE data
SIM. It could effectively roam to any network, right?

Yes - but the APN should (almost always) be for your home
network - not
for where you're roaming too.

I have no idea what the EE APN should be but a quick google
might solve
that.

For an EE SIM the APM should be "everywhere", but not sure why it
would be greyed-out on his mi-fi.


Thanks guys. You gave me enough info to sort it. I had no idea
that the APN
had to be your home network. I'll have to remember that whenever I
get a
new data SIM.

got the details here, created a new profile in the device,
selected it and
it connected straight away.
https://www.teamknowhow.com/discover...ngs%20for%20EE


AFAIK the APN has to be the one for your SIM, no matter where in
the world you are using that SIM.


I am not sure if its fixed now, but I got bitten on this when my
wife's iPhone refused to roam on O2. It turns out that O2 used to
have a separate data contract fo iPhones which used a different APN
to the normal O2 APN. The iPhone APN worked fine in the UK but not
while roaming.

Setting the APN to match the normal O2 APN fixed it...



If you are happy with O2 coverage and facilities you should look at
GiffGaff. Much cheaper on the same infrastructure. For example for
10pm I get 3Gb data and unlimited calls and texts. Does O2 come
anywhere near that?


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On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 18:10:23 -0000 (UTC), Chris
wrote:

Chris in Makati wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 09:22:00 +0100, Someone Somewhere
wrote:

On 04/07/2018 09:11, Chris wrote:
Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 03/07/2018 22:43, Chris wrote:
Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 03/07/2018 16:22, Chris wrote:
Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 03/07/2018 07:25, Tweed wrote:
Chris wrote:

Sorry to pepper so many questions at you lot, but got another one.

In France now and the mifi happily shows it's connected to "orange" with
2/3 bars and a 3G symbol. However, when connecting to it via Wi-Fi on our
phones results in no internet connectivity.

The admin interface shows as "disconnected" yet it received several texts
from EE (it's one of their Sims) welcoming the device to France.

Any ideas why it won't route any IP traffic? I did register the SIM in the
UK before we left and checked it worked.



Perhaps for whatever reason, the billing system thinks the SIM has no
credit/contract?

Is the APN setup correctly? That would result in SMS working, but no IP
traffic.


How would I know? In the device under "profile list" it only lists "orange
(D)". The APN is orange.fr and all the settings are greyed out.

It worked fine at home.

Hang on - the APN is orange.fr? Who is the SIM from? For some reason I
thought it was 3UK? If so, you'll need to be using the 3 APN and not
Oranges...


See upthread. It has an EE SIM.

In which case the APN should still not be orange.fr ...


What should it be showing, then? Remember I'm in France with an EE data
SIM. It could effectively roam to any network, right?

Yes - but the APN should (almost always) be for your home network - not
for where you're roaming too.

I have no idea what the EE APN should be but a quick google might solve
that.


For an EE SIM the APM should be "everywhere", but not sure why it
would be greyed-out on his mi-fi.


Thanks guys. You gave me enough info to sort it. I had no idea that the APN
had to be your home network. I'll have to remember that whenever I get a
new data SIM.


You shouldn't normally have to do that, as the correct APN for the SIM
should be set automatically when you first put it in a phone. That
process sometimes doesn't work correctly, so occasionally you have to
do it manually.

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On 06/07/2018 11:29, Someone Somewhere wrote:
The whole APN thing is a mess - why they didn't put them on the SIM in
the first place is an utter mystery to me (so the SIM is always properly
setup and you get data regardless of the device it's put in).

Then there's the whole GRX and name resolution piece - there's
effectively a DNS resolution of the APN name appended with the details
of your mobile network, but if they do local resolution then that
clearly isn't going to work from abroad.

No-one ever seems to have fixed it - 4G is the same (and didn't need to
be).

The former problem was probably increased by the seemingly vast number
of settings for MMS which has been such an utter and complete success...


Yes, except one case. With Three UK the APN for phones is "three.co.uk"
but the APN for Mi-Fi and 3G/4G USB dongles is "3Internet".

You can use "three.co.uk" in a Mi-Fi or dongle but you miss out on
getting a real public IP and the possibility of using UPnP to open
incoming ports which can be a big advantage to using Three for these
devices in some situations where you need this.

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On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 21:22:20 -0000 (UTC)
Chris wrote:

Woody wrote:


If so have you tried it with data roaming turned off off?


What does that mean?

I expect it's like Mickey Flanagan asking whether you're going "out" or
"/out/ out".

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On 2018-07-02, Chris wrote:

Sorry to pepper so many questions at you lot, but got another one.

In France now and the mifi happily shows it's connected to "orange" with
2/3 bars and a 3G symbol. However, when connecting to it via Wi-Fi on our
phones results in no internet connectivity.

The admin interface shows as "disconnected" yet it received several texts
from EE (it's one of their Sims) welcoming the device to France.

Any ideas why it won't route any IP traffic? I did register the SIM in the
UK before we left and checked it worked.


Rather late to the party on this one, but my TP-Link M3530 "2G/3G MiFi, with
an Orange UK SIM in it, worked fine in the UK with the APN profile set to
"Automatic", but when in France back in 2014, the automatic setting
bizarrely wanted to use the Orange France APN (using the APN of the roamed
network)!

Creating a manual profile with the Orange UK settings fixed that.

Now I never use the automatic profile, and only use the manual profile
option, currently with a giffgaff SIM, and this is working flawlessly.

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