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On 06/01/2019 18:08, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
https://news.sky.com/story/landline-...nfold-11599229

Why might that be?

Could it be most mobiles plans have lots of inclusive minutes these days?


Yes, that's the reason in this house, (We make no landline calls now, the
only incomers are from scammers) Plus on mobiles; Skype to Skype,
or Whatsapp to Whatsapp, or for iphone folk Facetime. All free, and video
too.


even if you don't have inclusive minutes mobile calls are cheaper than LL

8ppm on my mobile, 23p connection plus 10ppm on my LL

guess which one I use

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R. Mark Clayton wrote:
https://news.sky.com/story/landline-...nfold-11599229

Why might that be?


Lots of reasons:

- inclusive minutes on mobiles
- relatively cheap PAYG mobile mins (3p/min with O2 and Three)
- Ofcom forcing down mobile termination fees (enabling the above)
- Facetime/Skype/WhatsApp/etc over-the-top calls
- international calls via calling cards/specialist SIMs/VOIP providers
- business VOIP
- people using their mobiles more for everything else, so why not
calling?

It's rather curious that wholesale prices to call a UK landline are
~0.2p/min
(hence all the cold call scams) but retail prices from a PSTN phone are
100x
that. Seems that BT et al take a lot of the blame for this death spiral.

But in reality if you have ADSL/FTTC and thus need a landline the
*extra* cost of adding some sort of call plan is usually not all that
much so calls from a land line are just as cheap if not cheaper than
calls from a mobile.


8 pound per month unlimited (UK) calls from my LL.

6 pound per month unlimited (UK) calls from a mobile, including unlimited
texts, including some data

why would I subscribe to the LL unlimited calls?

I prefer to use my LL. But I am not going to be gouged for so doing.

tim


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On 07/01/2019 09:31, Chris Green wrote:

I use 3's 1-2-3 plan PAYGO on my mobile but make calls from home using
the land line, for me it's cheaper that way round. The alternative
would be to get a monthly plan for my mobile (with inclusive calls)
and discontinue the land line inclusive calls.


We thought about doing that, but the cheapest mobile plan we could find
would cost us a couple of quid a month more for the two of us than the
landline inclusive minutes.


either you get a very good LL deal (can I have it please) or you didn't look
hard enough

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On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 18:35:38 +0000, Mark Carver
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On 06/01/2019 18:08, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
https://news.sky.com/story/landline-...nfold-11599229

Why might that be?

Could it be most mobiles plans have lots of inclusive minutes these
days?


Yes, that's the reason in this house, (We make no landline calls now,
the only incomers are from scammers) Plus on mobiles; Skype to Skype,
or Whatsapp to Whatsapp, or for iphone folk Facetime. All free, and
video too.


I understand some people have a policy of not answering the landline
phone. I believe my neighbour is one such.


when 90% are scamsters trying to con me, I do likewise

unfortunately sometimes a medical (admin) person calls me on the LL so I
sometimes feel that I have to answer





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"Scott" wrote in message
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On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 18:35:38 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

On 06/01/2019 18:08, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
https://news.sky.com/story/landline-...nfold-11599229

Why might that be?

Could it be most mobiles plans have lots of inclusive minutes these
days?

Yes, that's the reason in this house, (We make no landline calls now,
the only incomers are from scammers) Plus on mobiles; Skype to Skype,
or Whatsapp to Whatsapp, or for iphone folk Facetime. All free, and
video too.


I understand some people have a policy of not answering the landline
phone. I believe my neighbour is one such.


when 90% are scamsters trying to con me, I do likewise

unfortunately sometimes a medical (admin) person calls me on the LL so I
sometimes feel that I have to answer

This may backfire. I have a friend who has some call screening system
which means you have to state your name and wait for him to answer (if
he is in). I just don't phone him any more. I send an email instead,
which seems less sociable.


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"Scott" wrote in message
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On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 18:35:38 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

On 06/01/2019 18:08, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
https://news.sky.com/story/landline-...nfold-11599229

Why might that be?

Could it be most mobiles plans have lots of inclusive minutes these
days?

Yes, that's the reason in this house, (We make no landline calls now,
the only incomers are from scammers) Plus on mobiles; Skype to Skype,
or Whatsapp to Whatsapp, or for iphone folk Facetime. All free, and
video too.

I understand some people have a policy of not answering the landline
phone. I believe my neighbour is one such.


when 90% are scamsters trying to con me, I do likewise

unfortunately sometimes a medical (admin) person calls me on the LL so I
sometimes feel that I have to answer

This may backfire. I have a friend who has some call screening system
which means you have to state your name and wait for him to answer (if
he is in). I just don't phone him any more. I send an email instead,
which seems less sociable.


does he not have a white list you can be added to?

FWIW, I have good friends who I don't call anymore either, just conversing
by email. And not because they have call screening (because they don't)

tim



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On 07/01/2019 15:54, tim... wrote:


I prefer to use my LL.


I don't, I specify my only means of contact as my mobile now, no need
then to worry about staying in to catch calls etc


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On 07/01/2019 15:55, tim... wrote:


"MissRiaElaine" wrote in message
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On 07/01/2019 09:31, Chris Green wrote:

I use 3's 1-2-3 plan PAYGO on my mobile but make calls from home using
the land line, for me it's cheaper that way round.* The alternative
would be to get a monthly plan for my mobile (with inclusive calls)
and discontinue the land line inclusive calls.


We thought about doing that, but the cheapest mobile plan we could
find would cost us a couple of quid a month more for the two of us
than the landline inclusive minutes.


either you get a very good LL deal (can I have it please) or you didn't
look hard enough


We're on Sky and get inclusive calls to UK landlines and mobiles for £8
a month on top of the line rental.

The cheapest mobile contract we could find with a reasonable amount of
inclusive minutes was £5 a month, so for two of us that's a tenner, so
using the landline saves us £2 a month. That may not sound a lot to you,
but if you're on a low income it makes all the difference.

We have to have the landline to get broadband, as there isn't any cable
service here, so as it's physically there it makes sense to use it.

Besides, I'm old fashioned and I have a certain affection for a physical
pair of wires.


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On 07/01/2019 16:49, Mark Carver wrote:
On 07/01/2019 15:54, tim... wrote:


I prefer to use my LL.


I don't, I specify my only means of contact as my mobile now, no need
then to worry about staying in to catch calls etc


Exactly the opposite for me. I prefer NOT to get called while I'm out.
If I'm not at home I tend to be doing something specific such as
shopping or visiting the dentist etc. and getting called in the middle
of either is a pain (in the case of the dentist possibly literally).


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"Scott" wrote in message
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On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 15:57:42 -0000, "tim..."
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"Scott" wrote in message
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On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 18:35:38 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

On 06/01/2019 18:08, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
https://news.sky.com/story/landline-...nfold-11599229

Why might that be?

Could it be most mobiles plans have lots of inclusive minutes these
days?

Yes, that's the reason in this house, (We make no landline calls now,
the only incomers are from scammers) Plus on mobiles; Skype to Skype,
or Whatsapp to Whatsapp, or for iphone folk Facetime. All free, and
video too.

I understand some people have a policy of not answering the landline
phone. I believe my neighbour is one such.

when 90% are scamsters trying to con me, I do likewise

unfortunately sometimes a medical (admin) person calls me on the LL so I
sometimes feel that I have to answer

This may backfire. I have a friend who has some call screening system
which means you have to state your name and wait for him to answer (if
he is in). I just don't phone him any more. I send an email instead,
which seems less sociable.


does he not have a white list you can be added to?


Probably does but he's a bit of an A45E.

FWIW, I have good friends who I don't call anymore either, just conversing
by email. And not because they have call screening (because they don't)

I suppose it's reverting to the days when we sent letter rather than
making phone calls.


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