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https://news.sky.com/story/landline-...nfold-11599229

Why might that be?

Could it be most mobiles plans have lots of inclusive minutes these days?

More likely it is even more the bandit rates BT* charge even for a local call: -

23p connection plus 15p per minute (18p for a mobile) = 38p for the first minute - for which I can phone half the world for twenty minutes on Voipfone.

Sky, VM and others not far behind...

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On 06/01/2019 18:08, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
https://news.sky.com/story/landline-...nfold-11599229

Why might that be?

Could it be most mobiles plans have lots of inclusive minutes these days?


Yes, that's the reason in this house, (We make no landline calls now,
the only incomers are from scammers) Plus on mobiles; Skype to Skype,
or Whatsapp to Whatsapp, or for iphone folk Facetime. All free, and
video too.

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R. Mark Clayton wrote:
https://news.sky.com/story/landline-...nfold-11599229

Why might that be?


Lots of reasons:

- inclusive minutes on mobiles
- relatively cheap PAYG mobile mins (3p/min with O2 and Three)
- Ofcom forcing down mobile termination fees (enabling the above)
- Facetime/Skype/WhatsApp/etc over-the-top calls
- international calls via calling cards/specialist SIMs/VOIP providers
- business VOIP
- people using their mobiles more for everything else, so why not calling?

It's rather curious that wholesale prices to call a UK landline are ~0.2p/min
(hence all the cold call scams) but retail prices from a PSTN phone are 100x
that. Seems that BT et al take a lot of the blame for this death spiral.

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Theo wrote:
R. Mark Clayton wrote:
https://news.sky.com/story/landline-...nfold-11599229

Why might that be?


Lots of reasons:

- inclusive minutes on mobiles
- relatively cheap PAYG mobile mins (3p/min with O2 and Three)
- Ofcom forcing down mobile termination fees (enabling the above)
- Facetime/Skype/WhatsApp/etc over-the-top calls
- international calls via calling cards/specialist SIMs/VOIP providers
- business VOIP
- people using their mobiles more for everything else, so why not calling?

It's rather curious that wholesale prices to call a UK landline are ~0.2p/min
(hence all the cold call scams) but retail prices from a PSTN phone are 100x
that. Seems that BT et al take a lot of the blame for this death spiral.

But in reality if you have ADSL/FTTC and thus need a landline the
*extra* cost of adding some sort of call plan is usually not all that
much so calls from a land line are just as cheap if not cheaper than
calls from a mobile.

I use 3's 1-2-3 plan PAYGO on my mobile but make calls from home using
the land line, for me it's cheaper that way round. The alternative
would be to get a monthly plan for my mobile (with inclusive calls)
and discontinue the land line inclusive calls.

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On Sunday, 6 January 2019 22:31:01 UTC, Theo wrote:
R. Mark Clayton wrote:
https://news.sky.com/story/landline-...nfold-11599229

Why might that be?


Lots of reasons:

- inclusive minutes on mobiles
- relatively cheap PAYG mobile mins (3p/min with O2 and Three)
- Ofcom forcing down mobile termination fees (enabling the above)
- Facetime/Skype/WhatsApp/etc over-the-top calls
- international calls via calling cards/specialist SIMs/VOIP providers
- business VOIP
- people using their mobiles more for everything else, so why not calling?

It's rather curious that wholesale prices to call a UK landline are ~0.2p/min
(hence all the cold call scams) but retail prices from a PSTN phone are 100x
that. Seems that BT et al take a lot of the blame for this death spiral.

Theo


Indeed - perhaps BT want to get rid of POTS landlines?

For over a decade, we used to get prefixed PSTN calls from Voda (fixed) for very low prices (~1p/min, no set up), but sadly they pulled this about a year ago, so now Voipfone gets nearly all my landline calls.


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On 06/01/2019 18:08, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
https://news.sky.com/story/landline-...nfold-11599229

Why might that be?

Could it be most mobiles plans have lots of inclusive minutes these days?

More likely it is even more the bandit rates BT* charge even for a local call: -

23p connection plus 15p per minute (18p for a mobile) = 38p for the first minute - for which I can phone half the world for twenty minutes on Voipfone.

Sky, VM and others not far behind...


I make most calls on the (Sky) landline which has unlimited calls to
landlines and mobiles. If I need to make a second call while one is
active I use Sipgate at 1.19p/min.


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On 06/01/2019 18:35, Mark Carver wrote:
On 06/01/2019 18:08, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
https://news.sky.com/story/landline-...nfold-11599229


Why might that be?

Could it be most mobiles plans have lots of inclusive minutes these days?


Yes, that's the reason in this house, (We make no landline calls now,
the only incomers are from scammers)* Plus on mobiles; Skype to Skype,
or Whatsapp to Whatsapp, or for iphone folk Facetime. All free, and
video too.


Ye gods the last thing I want is a video call. Last thing you'd want
too, especially first thing in the morning before I've got my face on..!


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On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 18:35:38 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

On 06/01/2019 18:08, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
https://news.sky.com/story/landline-...nfold-11599229

Why might that be?

Could it be most mobiles plans have lots of inclusive minutes these days?


Yes, that's the reason in this house, (We make no landline calls now,
the only incomers are from scammers) Plus on mobiles; Skype to Skype,
or Whatsapp to Whatsapp, or for iphone folk Facetime. All free, and
video too.


I understand some people have a policy of not answering the landline
phone. I believe my neighbour is one such.
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On 07/01/2019 09:31, Chris Green wrote:

I use 3's 1-2-3 plan PAYGO on my mobile but make calls from home using
the land line, for me it's cheaper that way round. The alternative
would be to get a monthly plan for my mobile (with inclusive calls)
and discontinue the land line inclusive calls.


We thought about doing that, but the cheapest mobile plan we could find
would cost us a couple of quid a month more for the two of us than the
landline inclusive minutes.


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On 07/01/2019 15:45, Scott wrote:

I understand some people have a policy of not answering the landline
phone. I believe my neighbour is one such.


The fax machine answers ours..! We get most of our incoming calls on the
Sipgate numbers, not had any cold calls on them for as long as we can
remember.


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