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I have always been very sceptical about the use of mobile phones as a
Sat Nav. Just saw this news item.



"NHS consultant, 55, who was caught using her mobile as a sat-nav for
EIGHT seconds while driving at 50mph on dual-carriageway is banned for
six months"

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On 09/01/2019 14:00, MB wrote:
I have always been very sceptical about the use of mobile phones as a
Sat Nav.* Just saw this news item.


Depends on *how* you use it.

If you enter the destination postcode before setting off and have the
speaker bluetooth linked then it is no different to any other satnav. If
you fiddle with it on the move then there is a problem.

"NHS consultant, 55, who was caught using her mobile as a sat-nav for
EIGHT seconds while driving at 50mph on dual-carriageway is banned for
six months"


Presumably someone pratting around with a real satnav, lighting up a
cigarette, or changing a CD could not be charged with the same offence.

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On 09/01/2019 15:08, Martin Brown wrote:
On 09/01/2019 14:00, MB wrote:
I have always been very sceptical about the use of mobile phones as a
Sat Nav.* Just saw this news item.


Depends on *how* you use it.

If you enter the destination postcode before setting off and have the
speaker bluetooth linked then it is no different to any other satnav. If
you fiddle with it on the move then there is a problem.


The offens is to hold it.

https://www.gov.uk/using-mobile-phon...riving-the-law

"NHS consultant, 55, who was caught using her mobile as a sat-nav for
EIGHT seconds while driving at 50mph on dual-carriageway is banned for
six months"


Presumably someone pratting around with a real satnav, lighting up a
cigarette, or changing a CD could not be charged with the same offence.


Prating around with a SatNav is apparently covered by the same law in
the UK. The others would be "not being in control" e.g.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-apple.html

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On 09/01/2019 15:08, Martin Brown wrote:
On 09/01/2019 14:00, MB wrote:
I have always been very sceptical about the use of mobile phones as a
Sat Nav. Just saw this news item.


Depends on *how* you use it.

If you enter the destination postcode before setting off and have the
speaker bluetooth linked then it is no different to any other satnav. If
you fiddle with it on the move then there is a problem.


The offens is to hold it.

https://www.gov.uk/using-mobile-phon...riving-the-law


but the penalty is a fixed penalty of points

it is not a banning offence




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On Thursday, 10 January 2019 12:37:34 UTC, tim... wrote:
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On 09/01/2019 15:08, Martin Brown wrote:
On 09/01/2019 14:00, MB wrote:
I have always been very sceptical about the use of mobile phones as a
Sat Nav. Just saw this news item.

Depends on *how* you use it.

If you enter the destination postcode before setting off and have the
speaker bluetooth linked then it is no different to any other satnav. If
you fiddle with it on the move then there is a problem.


The offens is to hold it.

https://www.gov.uk/using-mobile-phon...riving-the-law


but the penalty is a fixed penalty of points

it is not a banning offence


Unless you have six already.


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On 09/01/2019 14:00, MB wrote:
I have always been very sceptical about the use of mobile phones as a
Sat Nav.* Just saw this news item.


Depends on *how* you use it.

If you enter the destination postcode before setting off and have the
speaker bluetooth linked then it is no different to any other satnav. If
you fiddle with it on the move then there is a problem.

"NHS consultant, 55, who was caught using her mobile as a sat-nav for
EIGHT seconds while driving at 50mph on dual-carriageway is banned for
six months"


Presumably someone pratting around with a real satnav, lighting up a
cigarette, or changing a CD could not be charged with the same offence.


The OP has not provided us with a link, or told us what legeslation
was used in the charge, but his post only makes sense if the device
was being treated as a mobile phone in which case he has a point!

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On 10/01/2019 19:24, Graham. wrote:
The OP has not provided us with a link, or told us what legeslation
was used in the charge, but his post only makes sense if the device
was being treated as a mobile phone in which case he has a point!


A quick news search will find the reports which seem to be in most news
sources.

It is illegal to hold a phone or sat nav whilst driving.

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On 10/01/2019 19:24, Graham. wrote:
On 09/01/2019 14:00, MB wrote:
I have always been very sceptical about the use of mobile phones as a
Sat Nav.* Just saw this news item.


Depends on *how* you use it.

If you enter the destination postcode before setting off and have the
speaker bluetooth linked then it is no different to any other satnav. If
you fiddle with it on the move then there is a problem.

"NHS consultant, 55, who was caught using her mobile as a sat-nav for
EIGHT seconds while driving at 50mph on dual-carriageway is banned for
six months"


Presumably someone pratting around with a real satnav, lighting up a
cigarette, or changing a CD could not be charged with the same offence.


The OP has not provided us with a link, or told us what legeslation
was used in the charge, but his post only makes sense if the device
was being treated as a mobile phone in which case he has a point!


It is this one - she *already* had 9 points on her license and was found
guilty of driving at 50mph for 8s driving 160 yards without looking at
the road ahead whilst looking at her mobile phone. Her bad luck that a
police car saw her doing it *and* that she didn't notice them.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-phone.html

Sorry but IMO the ban is entirely reasonable.

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Martin Brown wrote:
On 10/01/2019 19:24, Graham. wrote:
On 09/01/2019 14:00, MB wrote:
I have always been very sceptical about the use of mobile phones as a
Sat Nav.* Just saw this news item.

Depends on *how* you use it.

If you enter the destination postcode before setting off and have the
speaker bluetooth linked then it is no different to any other satnav. If
you fiddle with it on the move then there is a problem.

"NHS consultant, 55, who was caught using her mobile as a sat-nav for
EIGHT seconds while driving at 50mph on dual-carriageway is banned for
six months"

Presumably someone pratting around with a real satnav, lighting up a
cigarette, or changing a CD could not be charged with the same offence.


The OP has not provided us with a link, or told us what legeslation
was used in the charge, but his post only makes sense if the device
was being treated as a mobile phone in which case he has a point!


It is this one - she *already* had 9 points on her license and was found
guilty of driving at 50mph for 8s driving 160 yards without looking at
the road ahead whilst looking at her mobile phone. Her bad luck that a
police car saw her doing it *and* that she didn't notice them.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-phone.html

Sorry but IMO the ban is entirely reasonable.


Nothing to apologise for. Clearly someone that needs to be removed from the
road.

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On 10/01/2019 19:24, Graham. wrote:
The OP has not provided us with a link, or told us what legeslation
was used in the charge, but his post only makes sense if the device
was being treated as a mobile phone in which case he has a point!


A quick news search will find the reports which seem to be in most news
sources.

It is illegal to hold a phone or sat nav whilst driving.


Holding a sat nav *may* be deemed to be illegal in the same way as
holding a cigarette or sandwich.

To be dealt with by the same legislation as holding a mobile phone,
your device must be one "Which performs an interactive communication
function by transmitting and receiving data."

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/...ade?view=plain

Surprisingly, "two way radio" does not pass this bar either.

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